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In
honour of Douglas Adams' memory, Machines Like Us presents
the transcript of his speech given at Digital Biota 2 (used with
permission),
held at Magdelene College Cambridge, in September 1998.
Douglas
presented
this "off the cuff," which
only magifies his true genius.
Is There
an Artificial God?
by Douglas Adams
This was originally
billed as a debate only because I was a bit anxious coming here.
I didn’t think I was going to have time to prepare anything
and also, in a room full of such luminaries, I thought ‘what
could I, as an amateur, possibly have to say’? So I thought
I would settle for a debate. But after having been here for a couple
of days, I realised you’re just a bunch of guys! It’s
been rife with ideas and I’ve had so many myself through talking
with and listening to people that I’d thought what I’d
do was stand up and have an argument and debate with myself. I’ll
talk for a while and hope sufficiently to provoke and inflame opinion
that there’ll be an outburst of chair-throwing at the end.
Before
I embark on what I want to try and tackle, may I warn you that
things may get a little bit lost from time to time, because
there’s a lot of stuff that’s just come in from what
we’ve been hearing today, so if I occasionally sort of go… I
was telling somebody earlier today that I have a four-year-old
daughter and was very, very interested watching her face when she
was in her
first 2 or 3 weeks of life and suddenly realising what nobody would
have realised in previous ages – she was rebooting!
I just
want to mention one thing, which is completely meaningless, but
I am terribly proud of – I was born in Cambridge in 1952
and my initials are D N A!
The topic I want to introduce to
you this evening, the subject of the debate that we are about to
sort of not have, is a slightly
facetious
one (you’ll be surprised to hear, but we’ll see
where we go with it) – “Is there an Artificial
God?” I’m
sure most of the people in this room will share the same view,
but even as an out-and-out atheist one can’t help noticing
that the rôle of a god has had an enormously profound
impact on human history over many, many centuries. It’s
very interesting to figure out where this came from and what,
in the modern scientific
world we sometimes hope against hope that we live in, it actually
means.
I was thinking about this earlier
today when Larry Yaeger was talking about ‘what is life?’ and
mentioned at the end something I didn’t know, about a special
field of handwriting recognition. The following strange thought
went
through my mind: that trying to
figure out what is life and what isn’t and where the
boundary is has an interesting relationship with how you
recognise handwriting.
We all know, when presented with any particular entity, whether
it’s
a bit of mould from the fridge or whatever; we instinctively
know when something is an example of life and when it isn’t.
But it turns out to be tremendously hard exactly to define
it. I remember
once, a long time ago, needing a definition of life for a
speech I was giving. Assuming there was a simple one and
looking around
the Internet, I was astonished at how diverse the definitions
were and how very, very detailed each one had to be in order
to include ‘this’ but
not include ‘that’. If you think about it, a
collection that includes a fruit fly and Richard Dawkins
and the Great
Barrier Reef is an awkward set of objects to try and compare.
When we try
and figure out what the rules are that we are looking for,
trying to find a rule that’s self-evidently true, that
turns out to be very, very hard.
Compare this with the business
of recognising whether something is an A or a B or a C.
It’s
a similar kind of process, but it’s
also a very, very different process, because you may say
of something that you’re ‘not quite certain
whether it counts as life or not life, it’s kind
of there on the edge isn’t it,
it’s probably a very low example of what you might
call life, it’s maybe just about alive or maybe it
isn’t’.
Or maybe you might say about something that’s an
example of Digital life, ‘does that count as being
alive?’ Is
it something, to coin someone’s earlier phrase, that’ll
go squish if you step on it? Think about the controversial
Gaia hypothesis; people say ‘is the planet alive?’, ‘is
the ecosphere alive or not?’ In the end it depends
on how you define such things.
Compare that with handwriting
recognition. In the end you are trying to say “is
this an A or is it a B?” People
write As and Bs in many different ways; floridly, sloppily
or whatever. It’s
no good saying ‘well, it’s sort of A-ish
but there’s
a bit of B in there’, because you can’t write
the word ‘apple’ with
such a thing. It is either an A or a B. How do you judge?
If you’re
doing handwriting recognition, what you are trying to
do is not to assess the relative degrees of A-ness or
B-ness
of the letter, but
trying to define the intention of the person who wrote
it. It’s
very clear in the end – is it an A or a B? – ah!
it’s
an A, because the person writing it was writing the word
apple and that’s clearly what it means. So, in
the end, in the absence of an intentional creator, you
cannot
say what life is, because it
simply depends on what set of definitions you include
in your overall definition. Without a god, life is only
a
matter of opinion.
I want to pick up on a few other
things that came around today. I was fascinated by Larry (again),
talking about
tautology, because there’s an argument that I
remember being stumped by once, to which I couldn’t
come up with a reply, because I was so puzzled by the
challenge
and couldn’t quite figure it out.
A guy said to me, ‘yes, but the whole theory
of evolution is based on a tautology: that which survives,
survives’ This is
tautological, therefore it doesn’t mean anything.
I thought about that for a while and it finally occurred
to me that a tautology
is something that if it means nothing, not only that
no information has gone into it but that no consequence
has come out of it. So,
we may have accidentally stumbled upon the ultimate
answer; it’s
the only thing, the only force, arguably the most powerful
of which we are aware, which requires no other input,
no other support from
any other place, is self evident, hence tautological,
but nevertheless astonishingly powerful in its effects.
It’s hard to find anything
that corresponds to that and I therefore put it at
the beginning of one of my books. I reduced it to what
I
thought were the bare
essentials, which are very similar to the ones you
came up with earlier, which were “anything that
happens happens, anything that in happening causes
something
else to happen causes something else to
happen and anything that in happening causes itself
to happen again, happens again”. In fact you
don’t
even need the second two because they flow from the
first one, which is self-evident and
there’s nothing else you need to say; everything
else flows from that. So, I think we have in our grasp
here a fundamental, ultimate
truth, against which there is no gain-saying. It was
spotted by the guy who said this is a tautology. Yes,
it is, but it’s a unique
tautology in that it requires no information to go
in but an infinite amount of information comes out
of it.
So I think that it is arguably
therefore the prime cause of everything in the Universe.
Big claim, but I feel I’m talking to a sympathetic
audience.
Where does the idea of God come from?
Well, I think we have a very skewed point of view on an awful
lot
of things,
but
let’s try
and see where our point of view comes from. Imagine
early man. Early man is, like everything else, an
evolved creature and he finds himself
in a world that he’s begun to take a little
charge of; he’s
begun to be a tool-maker, a changer of his environment
with the tools that he’s made and he makes
tools, when he does, in order to make changes in
his environment.
To give an example of the way man
operates compared to other animals, consider speciation,
which, as we know, tends to occur when a small group
of animals gets separated
from the rest of the herd by some geological upheaval,
population pressure, food shortage or whatever and
finds itself in a new environment
with maybe something different going on. Take a very
simple example; maybe a bunch of animals suddenly
finds itself in a place where the
weather is rather colder. We know that in a few generations
those genes which favour a thicker coat will have
come to the fore and
we’ll come and we’ll find that the animals
have now got thicker coats. Early man, who’s
a tool maker, doesn’t
have to do this: he can inhabit an extraordinarily
wide range of habitats on earth, from tundra to the
Gobi Desert – he even manages
to live in New York for heaven’s sake – and
the reason is that when he arrives in a new environment
he doesn’t have
to wait for several generations; if he arrives in
a colder environment and sees an animal that has
those
genes which favour a thicker coat,
he says “I’ll have it off him.” Tools
have enabled us to think intentionally, to make things
and to do things to create
a world that fits us better. Now imagine an early
man surveying his surroundings at the end of a happy
day’s
tool making. He looks around and he sees a world
which pleases him mightily: behind him
are mountains with caves in – mountains are
great because you can go and hide in the caves and
you are
out of the rain and the
bears can’t get you; in front of him there’s
the forest
– it’s
got nuts and berries and delicious food; there's
a stream going by, which is full of water – water’s delicious
to drink, you can float your boats in it and do all sorts of stuff
with it;
here’s
cousin Ug and he’s caught a mammoth – mammoth’s
are great, you can eat them, you can wear their coats,
you can use their
bones to create weapons to catch other mammoths.
I mean this is a great world, it’s fantastic.
But our early man has a moment to reflect and he
thinks
to himself, ‘well, this is an interesting
world that I find myself in’ and then he asks
himself a very treacherous question, a question which
is totally meaningless and
fallacious, but only comes about because of the nature
of the sort of person he is, the sort of person he
has evolved into and the sort
of person who has thrived because he thinks this
particular way. Man the maker looks at his world
and says ‘So
who made this then?’ Who made this? – you
can see why it’s a
treacherous question. Early man thinks, ‘Well,
because there’s
only one sort of being I know about who makes things,
whoever made all this must therefore be a much bigger,
much more powerful and
necessarily invisible, one of me and because I tend
to be the strong one who does all the stuff, he’s
probably male’. And
so we have the idea of a god. Then, because when
we make things we do it with the intention of doing
something
with them, early man
asks himself, ‘If he made it, what did he make
it for?’ Now
the real trap springs, because early man is thinking, ‘This
world fits me very well. Here are all these things
that support me and feed me and look after me; yes,
this world fits me nicely’ and
he reaches the inescapable conclusion that whoever
made it, made it for him.
This is rather as if you
imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, ‘This
is an interesting world I find myself in –
an interesting hole I find myself in – fits me rather neatly,
doesn’t
it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must
have been made to have me in it!’ This is
such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the
sky and
the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle
gets smaller and smaller, it’s still frantically
hanging on to the notion that everything’s
going to be alright, because this world was meant
to have him in it, was built to have him in
it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather
by surprise. I think this may be something we need
to be on the watch out for. We
all know that at some point in the future the Universe
will come to an end and at some other point, considerably
in advance from that
but still not immediately pressing, the sun will
explode. We feel there’s plenty of time to
worry about that, but on the other hand that’s
a very dangerous thing to say. Look at what’s
supposed to be going to happen on the 1st of January
2000 – let’s
not pretend that we didn’t have a warning
that the century was going to end! I think that
we need
to take a larger perspective
on who we are and what we are doing here if we
are going to survive in the long term.
There are
some oddities in the perspective with
which we see the world. The fact that we live
at the bottom
of a
deep gravity
well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going
around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think
this
to be normal
is obviously
some indication of how skewed our perspective
tends to be, but we have
done various things over intellectual history
to slowly correct some of our misapprehensions. Curiously
enough,
quite a lot
of these have
come from sand, so let’s talk about the
four ages of sand.
From sand we make glass, from
glass we make lenses
and from lenses we make telescopes. When the
great early
astronomers, Copernicus,
Gallileo and others turned their telescopes
on the heavens and discovered that the Universe
was an astonishingly
different place
than we expected
and that, far from the world being most of
the Universe, with just a few little bright lights
going around
it, it turned
out – and
this took a long, long, long time to sink in – that
it is just one tiny little speck going round
a little nuclear fireball, which
is one of millions and millions and millions
that make up this particular galaxy and our
galaxy is one of millions or billions that
make up
the Universe and that then we are also faced
with the possibility that there may be billions
of universes, that applied a little bit
of a corrective to the perspective that the
Universe was ours.
I rather love that notion
and, as I was discussing
with someone earlier today, there’s
a book I thoroughly enjoyed recently by David
Deutsch, who is an advocate of the multiple
universe view of the Universe, called ‘The
Fabric of Reality’, in which he
explores the notion of a quantum multiple
universe view of the Universe. This came
from the famous
wave particle dichotomy about the behaviour
of light – that you couldn’t
measure it as a wave when it behaves as a
wave, or
as a particle when it behaves as a particle.
How does this come to be? David Deutsch points
out that if you imagine
that our Universe is simply one layer and
that there is an infinite multiplicity of
universes
spreading out on either side, not only
does it solve the problem, but the problem
simply goes away. This is exactly how you
expect light to behave under those circumstances.
Quantum mechanics has claims to be predicated
on the notion that the Universe behaves as
if there was a multiplicity of universes,
but it rather strains our credulity to think
that there actually would be.
This goes straight
back to Gallileo and the
Vatican. In fact, what the Vatican said
to Gallileo was, “We don’t dispute
your readings, we just dispute the explanation
you put on them. It’s
all very well for you to say that the planets
sort of do that as they go round and it
is as if we were a planet and those planets
were all going round the sun; it’s
alright to say it’s
as if that were happening, but you’re
not allowed to say that’s
what is happening, because we have a total
lockhold on universal truth and also it
simply strains our personal credulity.”
Just so, I think that the idea that there are multiple universes
currently
strains our credulity but it may well be
that it’s simply one
more strain that we have to learn to live
with, just as we’ve
had to learn to live with a whole bunch
of them in the past.
The other thing that comes out of
that vision of the Universe is that it turns out to
be composed almost
entirely and
rather worryingly,
of nothing. Wherever you look there is
nothing, with occasional tiny, tiny little specks
of rock or light.
But nevertheless,
by watching
the way these tiny little specks behave
in the vast nothingness, we begin to divine
certain principles,
certain laws,
like gravity and so forth. So that was,
if you
like,
the macroscopic
view
of the universe, which came from the
first age of sand.
The next age of sand is the microscopic
one. We put glass lenses into microscopes
and
started to
look
down at the
microscopic view of the Universe. Then
we began to understand that when
we get down
to the sub-atomic level, the solid
world we live in also consists,
again rather worryingly, of almost
nothing and that wherever we do find something
it turns out
not to
be actually
something, but
only
the probability that there may be something
there.
One way or another, this is a
deeply misleading Universe. Wherever we look
it’s beginning to be extremely
alarming and extremely upsetting
to our sense of who we are – great,
strapping, physical people living
in a Universe that exists almost
entirely
for us –
that it just isn’t the case. At this point we are still divining
from this all sorts of fundamental
principles, recognising the way that gravity works, the way that
strong and weak nuclear forces work,
recognising the nature of matter,
the nature of particles and so on, but having got those fundamentals,
we’re still not very
good at figuring out how it works,
because the maths is really rather tricky. So, we tend to come
up with almost a clockwork view of the
way it all works, because that’s
the best our maths can manage. I
don’t
mean in any way to disparage Newton,
because I guess he was the first
person who saw that there were principles
at work
that were different from anything
we
actually saw around us. His first
law of motion – that something
will remain in its position of either
rest
or motion until some other force
works on it – is
something that none of us, living
in a gravity well, in a gas envelope,
had ever seen, because everything
we
move comes to a halt. It was
only through very, very careful watching
and observing and measuring and divining
the principles underlying what we
could all see happening
that he came up with the principles
that we all know and recognise as
being the laws of motion, but nevertheless
it is by modern terms,
still a somewhat clockwork view of
the Universe. As I say, I don’t
mean that to sound disparaging in
any way at all, because his achievements,
as we all know, were absolutely monumental,
but it still kind of doesn’t
make sense to us.
Now there are all
sorts of entities we are also aware
of, as well as
particles, forces,
tables,
chairs,
rocks and
so on,
that are
almost invisible to science; almost
invisible,
because science has almost
nothing to say about them whatsoever.
I’m talking about dogs
and cats and cows and each other.
We living things are, so far, beyond
the purview of anything science
can actually say, almost beyond
even
recognising ourselves as things
that science might be expected
to
have something to say about.
I can
imagine Newton sitting down and
working out his laws of motion
and
figuring out
the way the
Universe works and
with him,
a cat
wandering around. The reason
we had no idea how cats worked was
because,
since
Newton, we had proceeded by the
very simple principle that essentially,
to see how
things
work, we
took them
apart.
If you try and take
a cat apart to see how it works,
the first thing you have in your
hands
is a non-working cat. Life is
a level
of complexity that almost lies
outside our
vision; is so
far beyond anything
we have
any means of
understanding that we just think
of it as a different class of
object, a different
class
of matter; ‘life’,
something that had a mysterious
essence about it, was god given – and
that’s
the only explanation we had.
The bombshell comes in 1859 when
Darwin
publishes ‘On the Origin
of Species’. It takes a
long time before we really get
to grips
with this and begin to understand
it, because not only does it
seem incredible and thoroughly
demeaning
to us, but it’s yet another
shock to our system to discover
that not only are we not the
centre of the Universe and we’re
not made of anything, but we
started out as some kind of slime
and got
to where we are via being a monkey.
It just doesn’t read
well. But also, we have no opportunity
to see this stuff at work. In
a sense Darwin was like Newton,
in
that he was the first person
to see underlying principles,
that really were not at all obvious,
from the everyday world in which
he lived. We had to think very
hard to understand the nature
of
what was happening around us
and we had
no clear, obvious everyday examples
of evolution to point to. Even
today that persists as a slightly
tricky problem if you’re
trying to persuade somebody who
doesn’t believe in all
this evolution stuff and wants
you to
show him an example – they
are hard to find in terms of
everyday observation.
So we come
to the third age of
sand. In the third age of sand
we discover
something
else
we can
make out
of sand – silicon. We
make the silicon chip – and
suddenly, what opens up to
us is a Universe not of fundamental
particles and fundamental forces,
but
of the things that were missing
in that picture that told us
how they work; what the silicon
chip revealed to us was the
process.
The silicon chip enables us
to do mathematics tremendously
fast,
to model the, as it turns out,
very very simple processes
that are
analogous to life in terms
of their simplicity; iteration,
looping, branching, the feedback
loop which lies at the heart
of everything
you do on a computer and at
the
heart of everything that happens
in evolution – that is,
the output stage of one generation
becomes the input stage of
the next. Suddenly we have
a working
model, not
for a while because early machines
are terribly slow and clunky,
but gradually we accumulate
a working model of this thing
that
previously we could only guess
at or deduce – and you
had to be a pretty sharp and
a pretty clear thinker even
to divine it happening when
it was far from obvious and
indeed
counter-intuitive, particularly
to as proud a species as we.
The
computer forms a third age
of perspective, because
suddenly
it
enables us to see
how life works. Now
that is an extraordinarily
important point because it
becomes self-evident that
life, that
all forms of complexity,
do not flow
downwards, they flow upwards
and there’s a whole
grammar that anybody who
is used to
using computers is now familiar
with, which means that evolution
is no longer a particular
thing, because anybody who’s
ever looked at the way a
computer program works, knows
that very,
very simple iterative pieces
of code, each line of which
is tremendously straightforward,
give rise to
enormously complex phenomena
in a computer – and
by enormously complex phenomena,
I mean a word processing
program
just as much
as I mean Tierra or Creatures.
I
can remember the first
time I ever read a programming
manual,
many many
years ago.
I’d first started
to encounter computers
about
1983 and I wanted to know
a little bit more about
them, so I decided to learn
something
about programming. I bought
a C manual and I read
through the first two or
three chapters, which took
me about a week. At the
end it said ‘Congratulations,
you have now written the
letter A on the screen!’ I
thought, ‘Well, I
must have misunderstood
something
here, because it was a
huge, huge amount
of work to do that, so
what if I now want to write
a
B?’ The
process of programming,
the speed and the means
by which
enormous simplicity gives
rise to enormously complex
results, was not part
of my mental grammar at
that point. It is now – and
it is increasingly part
of all our mental grammars,
because we are used to
the
way computers
work.
So, suddenly, evolution
ceases to be such a real
problem
to get hold
of.
It’s rather like
this: imagine, if you
will, the following scenario.
One Tuesday, a person
is
spotted in a street in
London,
doing something criminal.
Two detectives are investigating,
trying to work out what
happened. One of them
is a 20th Century detective
and the other, by the
marvels
of science fiction, is
a 19th Century
detective. The problem
is this: the person who
was clearly seen and
identified on the street
in London
on Tuesday was seen by
someone
else, an equally reliable
witness, on the street
in Santa Fe on the same
Tuesday – how could
that possibly be? The
19th Century detective
could
only think it was by
some sort of magical
intervention.
Now
the 20th Century detective
may not be able to say, “He
took BA flight this and
then United flight that” – he
may not be able to figure
out exactly which way
he did it, or by which
route
he travelled, but it’s
not a problem. It doesn’t
bother him; he just says, ‘He
got there by plane. I
don’t
know which plane and
it may be a little tricky
to find out, but there’s
no essential mystery.’ We’re
used to the idea of jet
travel. We don’t
know whether the criminal
flew BA 178, or UA270,
or whatever, but we know
roughly how it was done.
I suspect
that as we become more
and more conversant with
the role a computer plays
and the way in which
the computer models the
process
of enormously
simple elements giving
rise to enormously complex
results, then the idea
of life being an emergent
phenomenon will become
easier and
easier to swallow. We
may never know precisely
what
steps life took in the
very early stages of
this planet, but it’s
not a mystery.
So what
we have arrived at
here – and
although the first
shock wave
of this arrival was
in 1859, it’s really
the arrival of the
computer that demonstrates it
unarguably to us – is ‘Is
there really a Universe
that is not designed
from the top downwards
but from the bottom
upwards? Can complexity
emerge
from lower levels of
simplicity?’ It
has always struck me
as being bizarre that
the idea of God as
a creator was considered
sufficient explanation
for the complexity
we
see around us, because
it simply doesn’t
explain where he came
from. If we imagine
a designer, that implies
a design and that therefore
each thing he designs
or causes to be designed
is a level simpler
than
him or her, then you
have to ask ‘What
is the level above
the designer?’ There
is one peculiar model
of the Universe that
has turtles all the
way down, but here
we have
gods all the way up.
It really isn’t
a very good answer,
but a bottom-up solution,
on the other hand,
which
rests on the incredibly
powerful tautology
of anything that happens,
happens, clearly gives
you a very simple and
powerful answer that
needs no other explanation
whatsoever.
But here’s
the interesting thing.
I said I wanted to
ask ‘Is
there an artificial
god?’ and this is where I want to address
the question of why
the idea of a god is so persuasive. I’ve
already explained
where I feel this kind of illusion comes from in the first place;
it
comes from a falseness in our perspective, because
we are not taking
into account that we are evolved beings, beings who have evolved
into
a particular landscape, into a particular environment
with a particular
set of skills and views of the world that have enabled us to
survive
and thrive rather successfully. But there seems
to be an even more
powerful idea than that, and this is the idea I want to propose,
which is that the spot at the top of the pyramid
that we previously
said was whence everything flowed, may not actually be vacant
just because we say the flow doesn’t go that way.
Let me
explain what I mean by this. We
have
created
in the
world in
which we
live all
kinds of things;
we have
changed
our world
in all kinds of
ways. That’s very
very clear. We
have built the room we’re
in and we’ve
built all sorts
of complex stuff,
like
computers and so
on, but we’ve
also constructed
all kinds of fictitious
entities that are
enormously powerful.
So do we say, ‘That’s
a bad idea; it’s
stupid – we
should simply get
rid of it?’ Well,
here’s another
fictitious entity – money.
Money is a completely
fictitious entity,
but it’s
very powerful in
our world;
we each have wallets,
which have got
notes in them,
but what
can those
notes do? You can’t
breed them, you
can’t
stir fry them,
you can’t
live in them, there’s
absolutely nothing
you can do with
them that’s
any use, other
than exchange
them with each
other – and
as soon as we exchange
them with each
other all sots
of powerful
things happen,
because it’s
a fiction that
we’ve
all subscribed
to. We don’t
think this is wrong
or
right, good or
bad; but the thing
is
that if money vanished
the entire co-operative
structure that
we have would implode,
but
if we were all
to
vanish, money would
simply vanish too.
Money has no meaning
outside ourselves,
it is something
that we have created
that has a powerful
shaping effect
on
the world, because
its something we
all subscribe to.
I
would like somebody
to write an evolutionary
history
of
religion, because
the way in which
it has
developed seems
to me to show
all kinds of
evolutionary strategies. Think
of the
arms races that
go on between
one or two animals
living the same
environment.
For example
the race between
the Amazonian
manatee and a particular
type
of reed
that it eats.
The more
of the reed
the manatee eats,
the more
the
reed develops
silica in its
cells to attack
the
teeth of the
manatee and
the more silica
in the
reed, the
more manatee’s
teeth get bigger
and stronger.
One side does
one thing
and the other
counters it.
As we know,
throughout evolution
and history arms
races are something
that drive evolution
in the most powerful
ways and in the
world of
ideas you can
see similar kinds
of
things happening.
Now,
the invention
of the scientific
method and
science is, I’m
sure we’ll
all agree,
the most powerful
intellectual
idea, the most
powerful framework
for thinking
and investigating
and understanding
and challenging
the world around
us that there
is, and that
it rests
on the premise
that any idea
is there to
be
attacked and
if it withstands
the attack
then it lives
to fight
another day
and if it doesn’t
withstand the
attack then
down it goes.
Religion
doesn’t
seem to work
like that;
it has certain
ideas
at the heart
of it which
we call sacred
or holy or
whatever. That’s
an idea we’re
so familiar
with, whether
we subscribe
to it or not,
that it’s
kind of odd
to think what
it
actually means,
because really
what it means
is ‘Here
is an idea
or a notion
that
you’re
not allowed
to say anything
bad about;
you’re
just not. Why
not? – because
you’re
not!’ If
somebody votes
for a party
that you don’t
agree with,
you’re
free to argue
about it as
much as you
like;
everybody will
have an argument
but nobody
feels aggrieved
by
it. If somebody
thinks taxes
should go
up or down
you are free
to have
an argument
about it, but
on the
other hand
if somebody
says ‘I
mustn’t
move a light
switch on a
Saturday’,
you say, ‘Fine,
I respect that’.
The odd thing
is, even as
I am saying
that
I am thinking ‘Is
there an Orthodox
Jew here who
is going to
be offended
by the
fact that I
just said that?’ but
I wouldn’t
have thought ‘Maybe
there’s
somebody from
the left wing
or somebody
from the right
wing
or somebody
who subscribes
to
this view or
the other in
economics’ when
I was making
the other points.
I just think ‘Fine,
we have different
opinions’.
But, the moment
I say something
that has something
to do with
somebody’s
(I’m
going to stick
my neck
out here and
say irrational)
beliefs, then
we all become
terribly
protective
and terribly
defensive
and say ‘No,
we don’t
attack that;
that’s
an irrational
belief but
no, we respect
it’.
It’s
rather like,
if you think
back in terms
of animal
evolution, an animal that’s
grown an
incredible carapace around
it, such
as a tortoise – that’s
a great survival
strategy
because nothing can
get through
it; or maybe
like a poisonous
fish that
nothing will come close
to, which
therefore thrives by
keeping away
any challenges
to what it
is it is.
In the case of
an idea,
if we think ‘Here
is an idea
that is protected
by holiness
or sanctity’,
what does
it mean?
Why should
it be that
it’s
perfectly
legitimate
to support
the Labour
party or
the Conservative
party, Republicans
or Democrats,
this model
of economics
versus that,
Macintosh
instead
of Windows,
but to have
an opinion
about how
the Universe
began,
about who
created the
Universe,
no, that’s
holy? What
does that
mean? Why
do we ring-fence
that for
any
other reason
other than
that we’ve
just got
used to doing
so?
There’s
no other
reason at
all, it’s
just one
of those
things
that crept
into being
and once
that loop
gets going
it’s
very, very
powerful.
So, we are
used
to not challenging
religious
ideas but
it’s
very interesting
how much
of a furore
Richard
creates when
he does it!
Everybody
gets absolutely
frantic about
it because
you’re
not allowed
to say these
things. Yet
when you
look at it
rationally
there is
no
reason why
those ideas
shouldn’t
be as open
to debate
as any other,
except that
we have agreed
somehow between
us
that they
shouldn’t
be.
There’s
a very
interesting book – I
don’t
know if
anybody
here’s read it – called ‘Man on Earth’ by
an anthropologist
who use to be at Cambridge, called John Reader, in which he describes
the way that… I’m going to back
up a little
bit and tell you about the whole book. It’s a series
of studies
of different cultures in the world that have developed within
somewhat isolated circumstances, either on islands or in a
mountain
valley or wherever, so it's possible to treat them to a certain
extent as a test-tube case. You see therefore exactly the
degree
to which their environment and their immediate circumstances
has affected
the way in which their culture has arisen. It’s
a fascinating
series of studies. The one I have in mind at the moment is one
that describes the culture and economy of Bali, which is a
small,
very crowded island that subsists on rice. Now, rice is an incredibly
efficient food and you can grow an awful lot in a relatively
small space,
but it’s hugely labour intensive and requires
a lot of
very, very precise co-operation amongst the people there, particularly
when you have a large population on a small island needing
to bring
its harvest in. People now looking at the way in which rice agriculture
works in Bali are rather puzzled by it because it is
intensely
religious. The society of Bali is such that religion permeates
every single aspect of it and everybody in that culture is very,
very carefully
defined in terms of who they are, what their status
is and
what their role in life is. It’s all defined by the
church;
they have very peculiar calendars and a very peculiar set of
customs
and rituals, which are precisely defined and, oddly enough,
they are
fantastically good at being very, very productive with their
rice harvest. In the 70s, people came in and noticed that the
rice
harvest
was determined by the temple calendar. It seemed to be totally
nonsensical,
so they said, ‘Get rid of all this, we can help
you make
your rice harvest much, much more productive than even you’re,
very successfully,
doing at the moment. Use these pesticides, use this calendar,
do this, that and the other’. So they started
and for
two or three years the rice production went up enormously, but
the
whole predator/prey/pest balance went completely out of kilter.
Very shortly,
the rice harvest plummeted again and the Balinese said, ‘Screw
it, we’re
going back
to the
temple
calendar!’ and
they reinstated
what was
there before
and it
all worked
again
absolutely
perfectly.
It’s
all very
well to
say that
basing
the rice
harvest
on something
as irrational
and meaningless
as a religion
is stupid
– they should be able to work it out more logically than that,
but they
might just
as well say to us, ‘Your culture and society works
on the
basis of money and that’s a fiction, so why don’t
you get
rid of it and just co-operate with each other’ – we
know it’s
not going
to work!
So, there
is a
sense in
which
we build meta-systems
above
ourselves
to
fill
in the space
that
we previously
populated
with
an entity
that
was supposed
to
be
the intentional
designer,
the creator
(even
though
there
isn’t
one)
and because
we – I
don’t
necessarily
mean
we in
this
room,
but we
as a
species – design
and create
one and
then
allow
ourselves
to behave
as if
there
was one,
all sorts
of things
begin
to happen
that
otherwise
wouldn’t
happen.
Let
me
try and
illustrate
what
I mean
by
something
else.
This
is
very speculative;
I’m
really
going
out
on
a limb
here,
because
it’s
something
I know
nothing
about
whatsoever,
so
think
of
this
more
as
a thought
experiment
than
a real
explanation
of
something.
I want
to
talk
about
Feng
Shui,
which
is
something
I know
very
little
about,
but
there’s
been
a lot
of
talk
about
it
recently
in
terms
of
figuring
out
how
a building
should
be
designed,
built,
situated,
decorated
and
so
on.
Apparently,
we
need
to
think
about
the
building
being
inhabited
by
dragons
and
look
at
it
in
terms
of
how
a dragon
would
move
around
it.
So,
if
a dragon
wouldn’t
be
happy
in
the
house,
you
have
to
put
a red
fish
bowl
here
or
a window
there.
This
sounds
like
complete
and
utter
nonsense,
because
anything
involving
dragons
must
be
nonsense – there
aren’t
any
dragons,
so
any
theory
based
on
how
dragons
behave
is
nonsense.
What
are
these
silly
people
doing,
imagining
that
dragons
can
tell
you
how
to
build
your
house?
Nevertheless,
it
occurs
to
me
if
you
disregard
for
a
moment
the
explanation
that’s
actually
offered
for
it,
it
may
be
there
is
something
interesting
going
on
that
goes
like
this:
we
all
know
from
buildings
that
we’ve
lived
in,
worked
in,
been
in
or
stayed
in,
that
some
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